Frank Ocean is back with a new opus of blonde radio. Today’s Christmas episode is the show’s first run since Christmas 2019. The program features an excerpt from Ocean’s conversation with Dutch motivational speaker and extreme athlete Wim “Iceman” Hof. Listen to “Blonded Xmas” on Apple Music 1. (Pitchfork earns a commission on purchases made through affiliate links on our site.)

“Me and @iceman_hof had a conversation a while ago when I was in the early stages of grieving,” Frank Ocean wrote in an Instagram story (seen by Pitchfork). “I remember marveling at how his energy exploded through the phone. So much vim in this Wim. He continued:

We talked for a while about his work, the purpose of grief, and how going into cold water changed his life. It reminded me of conversations in the studio with players I know. Free, psychedelic, charged with emotion, intelligent and generous. I liked listening to him, so in this edit, I just let him talk uninterrupted. Me, @coryhenry and @dylanpatricewiggins played some sounds below to increase the feeling. I added some writing at the end that I did a single take of w Cory in the summer of 2020. I came back and added some words and parts above this take more recently. I felt like it matched the wabi sabi of Wim’s words. Merry Christmas to everyone.

Frank Ocean’s brother, Ryan Moore (also known as Ryan Breaux) was killed in a car crash in August 2020. The entertainer has been relatively quiet since losing his brother.

This year, Ocean launched a line of luxury jewelry and accessories called Homer. He worked on the project for more than three years and opened a brick-and-mortar location for the brand in Manhattan last summer. Ocean is set to headline Coachella 2023.

Last month, Ocean made a rare public statement in remembrance of the late Virgil Abloh, who died of cancer in late November.

Read “A Visit to Homer, Frank Ocean’s New York Luxury Store” on the lot.